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Phonon Dispersion
« on: August 26, 2013, 20:55 »
Can anybody help me to find out the phonon dispersion, for any 2D material (e.g., graphene), using vnl 13.8.b1 ???

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Re: Phonon Dispersion
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2013, 23:39 »
Add a calculator (use ATK classical for speed)
Add a phonon bandstructure object
perform the calculation
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Re: Phonon Dispersion
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2013, 10:28 »
When you have a DeviceConfiguration in the Scripter, only the Analysis options that are relevant for devices are shown. You can only compute the phonon band structure for a BulkConfiguration, just like you need a bulk structure to calculate the electron band structure.

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Re: Phonon Dispersion
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2013, 12:45 »
It's not so much the point what the device is made of etc. It's the same question as for the electronic band structure, as I wrote above. If you want to calculate a quantity which is a property of a bulk system (like band structure or phonon dispersion) you must use a periodic system, and a device is not periodic (in Z). So if you want to know the phonon dispersion of a 4-AGNR system, then make a 4-AGNR unit cell as a BulkConfiguration and compute it. A device structure doesn't have the property phonon dispersion, just as it doesn't have a band structure.

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Re: Phonon Dispersion
« Reply #4 on: September 5, 2013, 06:02 »
Hi all ...  :) / Can anybody suggest the way out (regarding the problem as described below)...???
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Structure: Armchair GNR
Width: 4
C direction repetition: 10
Passivated with: H+
Now, while trying to find out the Phonon Band Structure, with ATK-extended Huckel(K points 1,16,16; Grid Mesh cutoff 10 Hartree), the problem is... It's is not getting converged in the end. Now if  I choose ATK Classical(E0,E1-- 0 eV, 4eV)....then I'm getting the result, but that is not satisfactory at all (Simply  a few straight lines between the G, Z points)

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Re: Phonon Dispersion
« Reply #5 on: September 5, 2013, 10:09 »
Never use Huckel for anything with forces except if you have your own pair-potential at hand.

If I follow the recipe given above, this is my results:
« Last Edit: September 5, 2013, 15:30 by Nordland »

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Re: Phonon Dispersion
« Reply #6 on: September 5, 2013, 12:34 »
Thank u Norland... for all those details.../ Bt, again, there will be the question, that how can I use the calculator (as mentioned in your code), called "TersoffCalculator" ???
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Error showing in Log:


# ------------------------------------------------------------ #
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|                                                                              |
| Atomistix ToolKit 13.8.b1 [Build a1c2415]                                    |
|                                                                              |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "c:\users\user\appdata\local\temp\0223720281437294.py", line 368, in <module>
    calculator = TersoffCalculator(parameters=Tersoff_CH_2005())
NameError: name 'Tersoff_CH_2005' is not defined
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NanoLanguageScript execution finished                                        |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 

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Re: Phonon Dispersion
« Reply #7 on: September 5, 2013, 15:29 »
Sorry my bad.

I will upload a new version of the script.

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Re: Phonon Dispersion
« Reply #8 on: September 5, 2013, 15:31 »
Alternative you can also change the calculator to the Brenner calculator
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calculator = BrennerCalculator()

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Re: Phonon Dispersion
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2013, 12:55 »
Sir
while running the Phonon Transmission Spectrum....for a simple two electrode Graphene Device.... I am getting the folllowing error.....
May I know, where is it going wrong??
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Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/tmp/9951790614159924.py", line 396, in <module>
    self_energy_calculator=KrylovSelfEnergy(),
  File "./zipdir/NL/Analysis/PhononTransmissionSpectrum.py", line 108, in __init__
  File "./zipdir/NL/ComputerScienceUtilities/Timer.py", line 45, in __call__
  File "./zipdir/NL/Analysis/PhononTransmissionSpectrum.py", line 107, in <lambda>
  File "./zipdir/NL/Analysis/PhononTransmissionSpectrum.py", line 333, in calculatePhononTransmissionSpectrum
  File "./zipdir/NL/Analysis/PhononTransmissionSpectrum.py", line 359, in calculateDevicePhononTransmissionSpectrum
  File "./zipdir/NL/Calculators/DeviceCalculatorInterface.py", line 145, in _dynamicalMatrix
  File "./zipdir/NL/Calculators/DeviceCalculatorInterface.py", line 398, in downgrade
  File "./zipdir/NL/Calculators/SlaterKosterCalculator/Builders/DeviceSlaterKosterBuilder.py", line 351, in downgrade
NL.ComputerScienceUtilities.Exceptions.NLError: Internal Error - Trying to use non EquivalentBulk density.



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Re: Phonon Dispersion
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2013, 02:05 »
It's an odd error message, but my suspicion is that your Slater-Koster method doesn't have a pair potential and hence cannot be used to compute phonon properties (or perform geometry optimization, etc).

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Re: Phonon Dispersion
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2013, 11:33 »
That may be...let me check..../ Thanks... :) /
In this regard, let me ask you something.....   Considering the calculation time, complexity and obviously the accuracy....can you please suggest that, which calculator will be a better option to choose while calculating the Phonon Transmission Spectrum of any simple device structure (say, for example 8-AGNR with 12 repetitions in c direction)??
« Last Edit: October 23, 2013, 11:46 by Dipankar Saha »

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Re: Phonon Dispersion
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2013, 18:30 »
Classical potentials is more or less the only sensible option unless you have a very powerful cluster to parallelize on. The results should be ok - but of course one needs to be aware of the limitations of an empirical method.

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Re: Phonon Dispersion
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2013, 18:50 »
Yes, that's true.../  thanks..... :)