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Is it possible in a conventional case?  For lower VDS up to =0.15V (along with VDS=0.15,0.3,0.4,0.5,0.8,1V) is giving somewhat acceptable results whereas VDS=0.05V (for the same device) doesn't provide suitable results. Maybe because of the convergence problem during execution. Kindly share yours's viewpoints.

Any kind  of response would be highly appreciated

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Is it possible in a conventional case?  For lower VDS up to =0.15V (along with VDS=0.15,0.3,0.4,0.5,0.8,1V) is giving somewhat acceptable results whereas VDS=0.05V (for the same device) doesn't provide suitable results. Maybe because of the convergence problem during execution. Kindly share yours's viewpoints.

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Dear Experts,

Is there any effects, in such cases for different VDS studies?

For example for the same device VDS=0.1,1.0,0.8?
How should it behave as IV Analyzer?


Why 0.05V VDS is not working for GAA CNT FET -- Does not provide suitable ID -VGS

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General Questions and Answers / Source Exhaustion Effects
« on: April 1, 2025, 07:51 »
Dear Experts,

Good morning, hope you are doing well. I have gone through these articles. Here they have mentioned Source Exhaustion Effects. I am enclosing my device structure so that can be comparable with the provided device structure at the literature. Especially for single channel device.  is it correct , the device structure?

https://sci-hub.st/10.1109/iedm.2009.5424281

https://ece.uwaterloo.ca/~l28wei/publications/2011TED_CNT.pdf


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Dear experts,

Good morning, just to ask, normally: For this kind of structure (Long devices), The cell size is required to increase for better convergence while proper task execution? in conventional cases? if yes, how to do that for existing device structure/geometry. Thank you.
Note: I have enclosed the structure.

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Dear Experts,

Good morning, hope you are doing well.  Just to ask: How to modify the surface or immobilize the protein or anti body at the surfaceof CNT? Using Quantum Atk
Ref-
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/20550324.2018.1478765#:~:text=The%20present%20article%20provides%20an%20overview%20on%20the,applications%20and%20concerns%20in%20the%20field%20are%20addressed.


Regards



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I never use the Slater Koster Model, so I can only provide limited suggestion. As the other comment had pointed out, you may need to increase vector_a and vector_b to reduce interaction between neighboring cells. I also don't see any calculation regarding the device hamiltonian, so it is hard to tell whether convergence happens.

Thanks for your kind reply. Highly appreciated.   Ref-
https://sci-hub.st/10.1016/j.aeue.2020.153354. I didn't able to replicate the result from curiosity point of view with the same kind of device structure. ..

Eventually oxide thickness is 1.5nm they have mentioned. Which is showing peculiar at VNL for 7nm technology nodes and 10nm Source /Drain.

Can you please share some suggestions regarding this?

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Dear experts,

 What is the efficient workflow structure for IV analyzers for cylindrical GAA structure.

For example -Poisson solver :Multi grid?
Boundary conditions for top/buttom ,front/ back: ,left/right :

Device semi empirical calculator. ?

Thank you.

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Thanks for your kind reply. Highly appreciated.  Also, what is the meaning periodic image interacting. Ref-
 
https://sci-hub.st/10.1016/j.aeue.2020.153354. I didn't able to replicate the result from curiosity point of view with the same kind of device structure. 

Thank You.   

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Thanks, sir, for your prompt response. Enclosing herewith the file and other associated files for the same.   

the main focus is to get the Dip of ambipolar behavior at the negative x axis (Voltage) of the given device. Maybe it is called Dirac point.  People are taking that point as off current for this kind of scenario. Even attached journal link is getting like that only, even for "N-I-N" Doping profile of a Conventional CNTFET.

So, what will be the approach for exact workflow for efficient calculation of these kind of devices such as Cylindrical GAA and to speed up the simulation process with 16 MPI (multiprocessor parallel). Only IV Analysis might be taken place.

Thanks and highly obliged.

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Dear experts,

Good morning, I have attached my script for a  GAA device structure ।

Just for your kind information -I have used a poison solver: Conjugate gradient

Top and button -Neuman boundary conditions
Front and back -periodic
Side by side(Left and Right)  -Dirichlet

Slater koster model ।

I have doped using -The miscellaneous section -Doping just above the spatial region of the current version of the software।
It does not provide suitable IV Analyzer Results such as -https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S143484112030892X

Thank you once again।

Enclosed is unexpected behavior with conventional IV Analyzer procedures. Valuable input would be highly appreciated
Also , It is taking long time to simulate the device which is unusual.  It is stuck at Execution 1 for long time.

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Dear experts,

Good morning, I have attached my script for a  GAA device structure ।

Just for your kind information -I have used a poison solver: Conjugate gradient

Top and button -Neuman boundary conditions
Front and back -periodic
Side by side(Left and Right)  -Dirichlet

Slater koster model ।

I have doped using -The miscellaneous section -Doping just above the spatial region of the current version of the software।
It does not provide suitable IV Analyzer Results such as -https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S143484112030892X

Thank you once again।

Enclosed is unexpected behavior with conventional IV Analyzer procedures. Valuable input would be highly appreciated

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Dear experts,

Good morning, I have attached my script for a  GAA device structure ।

Just for your kind information -I have used a poison solver: Conjugate gradient

Top and button -Neuman boundary conditions
Front and back -periodic
Side by side(Left and Right)  -Dirichlet

Slater koster model ।

I have doped using -The miscellaneous section -Doping just above the spatial region of the current version of the software।
It does not provide suitable IV Analyzer Results such as -https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S143484112030892X

Thank you once again।

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I don't think that reproducing my old results is very useful for you. If I recall correctly, the strong shift, which you can see in the figure I attached in the other post, was mainly an artefact of the lack of compensation charges.

If I were you, I would look for another reference and model that other reference using the now available AtomicCompensationCharges.

Thank you। Actually I will be obliged to you, if you can help me in this regard।  Can you check my device structure as .py file । More or less I want similar kind of IV that you have shared long back । Curve profile।  Executable Hdf5 file generation (directly) for IV analyzers from workflow point of view with current version of the software। Thank you

Ref of current version -https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S143484112030892X
In aligned with the similar curve profile

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I have gone through this(With .py file)  but have not been able to replicate the provided result. It is - Undoped for both the Channel region and the source and drain Region.  I am enclosing the "N-I-N" doping profile with a similar kind of device structure. 

I probably forgot to add the part with the doping in the script I had attached.
Back in the days, the AtomicCompensationCharge approach was not available. I therefore only used the charge-Keyword in the calculator-object. The lack of any compensation charges was probably the reason for the observed behavior back in 2014.


Thank you for your kind response। I have attached my script as well for similar kind of devices structure।

Just for your kind information -I have used poison solver :Conjugate gradient

Top and button -Neuman boundary conditions
Front and back -periodic
Side by side -Dirichlet 

Slater koster model ।

Kindly advise if there any changes are required to replicate your attached results।

I have doped using -Miscellaneous section -Doping just above the spatial region of current version of the software।

Thank you once again।
You can modify my device structure or whatever feasible for you, you can revert me back।

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