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Bias window identifcation help
« on: November 4, 2014, 13:57 »
Dear All,
Now, i calculated I-V curve of some organic molecules, and i want to interpret these curves with the aid of transmission spectrum curves, i read all questions about transmission spectrum and bias window in quantum forum and i clearly understand that the current is the integration of transmission spectrum at given voltage, and the integration limits are chemical potential for left and right electrode this according to Landauer-Buttiker formula , now when i calculated the transmission spectrum at 4 volt i set the voltage of one electrode at 0 volt and the voltage of the other electrode is 4 volt in this case, what is the bias window for this cas ??? ??? ??? and  how can i identify bias window at the transmission spectrum curve  ??? ??? ????
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Re: Bias window identifcation help
« Reply #1 on: November 4, 2014, 22:07 »
It's from -2 to 2 eV. If you plot it in VNL in the IV curve analyzer it's the blue part of the curve.

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Re: Bias window identifcation help
« Reply #2 on: November 4, 2014, 22:30 »
Dear Dr Anders Blom,
Thank you very much for your answer, but could you till me how to calculate bias widow for any bias voltage for example, 1, 2 or 3 ??? ??? ???
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Re: Bias window identifcation help
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Re: Bias window identifcation help
« Reply #4 on: November 8, 2014, 08:38 »
Dear Dr Anders Blom,
Firstly thank you very much for your rapid response of my questions, I read the page you sent , and this is the part about bias window,

electrode_voltages

    The electrode voltages to be used for defining the bias window for the current calculation. If no voltage is specified it will use the voltages in the self-consistent calculation. If voltages are specified the current will be obtained non-self-consistent.

    Type: Must be given as 2 voltages - for example, [-0.5, 0.5]*Volt.
    Default: If no electrode voltages are specified the same voltages will be used as those set on the calculator for the electronic structure calculation

yes i understand that bias voltage used to identify bias window, but my question is, if i use electrode voltage from 0 to 2 this mean bias window from 0 to 2 also?????
from my information , bias window is chemical potential of left and right electrode????????

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Re: Bias window identifcation help
« Reply #5 on: November 9, 2014, 21:23 »
If we for now assume there are no gates in the system, which makes it more complex, then it's quite simple: you specify the electrode voltages in the input file, but only the difference between them matter - the difference is the bias. So if you set both electrodes to +5 V, it's still zero bias, if set one to +1 V and one to -1 V, it's 2 V, but so is 19 V and 17 V.

When we compute the transmission spectrum, the energy zero point is chosen at (VLeft+VRight)/2. Therefore the "bias window" is always -bias/2 to +bias/2.

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Re: Bias window identifcation help
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2014, 09:02 »
Dear dr  anders blom,
Thank you very much for you time and your effort to reply my questions ,  now I clearly understand that in simple cases like two probe system in order to idenyify bias window  we divide voltage of left and right electrode by 2.
Thank you very much
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Re: Bias window identifcation help
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2014, 17:07 »
Dear dr  anders blom,
Thank you very much for you time and your effort to reply my questions , according to your answe bias window is the rang of -bias/2 to + bias/2, i follow this rule but during writing my paper i found paper which say that bias window is the limits of bias window, and is calculated from this equations

  µL = EF-eVb/2 and µR = EF+ eVb/2

 now i confused , if i the applied bias on left electrode is 2V and on right electrode is 0V , according to your answer bias window is the range from 0 to 1 ev and according to equations above the bias window is form 0 to -1   :D :D :D, what is true  ??? ??? ??? ???
waiting for your answer as soon as possible
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Re: Bias window identifcation help
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2014, 18:19 »
No, according to all expressions and comments and equations the bias window is then from -1 to +1. Vb is the BIAS, not the electrode voltages (Vb=Vleft-Vright)

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Re: Bias window identifcation help
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2014, 18:59 »
No, according to all expressions and comments and equations the bias window is then from -1 to +1. Vb is the BIAS, not the electrode voltages (Vb=Vleft-Vright)

Dear Dr anderson,
you say Vb=Vleft-Vright
            Vb= 2-0
            Vb= 2
from this equation  µL = EF-eVb/2 and µR = EF+ eVb/2
                                          µL= 0-2/2
                                             = -1        EF= 0eV
And                                    µR = 0 + 2/2
                                             = +1
                               so bias window is  from +1 to -1   is this right ??? ??? ???

can i consider only region from 0 to +1 as applied positive bias only ??? ??? ???
Thanks in advance,
Khattab
                                                    
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Re: Bias window identifcation help
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2014, 03:34 »
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Re: Bias window identifcation help
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2014, 10:30 »
Thank you Dr Anderson :) :) :) :)