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dissociation temperature of solids
« on: January 27, 2016, 02:50 »
Hi All,

We are recently looking into the dissociation temperature of a few solids (amorphous). Anyone knows whether there is a way to calculate it with ATK? Thanks in advance

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Re: dissociation temperature of solids
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2016, 10:31 »
Could you maybe give a more specific example of what you are interested in?

For molecular compounds, if you already have an idea how the dissociation reaction will look like, you could perform an NEB calculation of this reaction using DFT.
Then you could use the harmonic transition state theory (HTST event) analysis to obtain the reaction rate at different temperatures and from that estimate the temperature at which the reaction becomes likely to occur.
But for solids it might be more complicated. In principle running a molecular dynamics simulation while slowly increasing the temperature until you see dissociation, might give you an idea about the dissociation temperature, although very likely a bit overestimated.
 However, to get the reactions right, you'd probably have to use DFT (unless you have a really good reactive potential that describes the specific reaction you are interested in), and that would severely limit the time scale of the simulation.

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Re: dissociation temperature of solids
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2016, 18:30 »
Thank you, Julian. We are dealing with a SiO2 system. I was thinking that the dissociation energy should be the difference of energy between the solid and same number of separate atoms as in the solid model. And then we could somehow convert the dissociation energy to temperature...

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Re: dissociation temperature of solids
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2016, 02:42 »
Once you get the dissociation energy (actually it is similar to the formation energy in the example your mentioned), you may roughly estimate the temperature  by just converting the unit,e.g., eV---> K.   [ 0.001 eV = 11.6046 K].

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Re: dissociation temperature of solids
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2016, 01:16 »
Thank you, zh. This is exactly the information I want.